July 21, 2021
Below is the transcript of an interview with Mary Holland, president and general counsel of Children’s Health Defense, during the July 16, 2021 edition of Washington Watch with Tony Perkins.
TONY PERKINS: Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host, along with Meg Kilgannon, our co-host today. On Monday, Parental Rights Foundation and Children's Health Defense filed a lawsuit against Washington, D.C., arguing that a 2020 law permitting minors to obtain vaccinations without parental consent is unconstitutional. The D.C. Minor Consent for Vaccinations Amendment Act of 2020 allows minors eleven years and up to consent to vaccines, including the COVID shot without parental knowledge or consent, if the health care provider believes the minor is capable of meeting the informed consent standard. Wow. Well, joining us to talk about this is Mary Holland, president and general counsel of Children's Health Defense. She is also the co-author and co-editor of the books Vaccine Epidemic and the HPV Vaccine on Trial: Seeking Justice for a Generation Betrayed. Mary, welcome to Washington Watch.
MARY HOLLAND: Thank you so much for having me.
MEG KILGANNON: Mary, can you tell us about what prompted you to file the lawsuit?
HOLLAND: So this is a very dangerous law that the Washington, D.C. City Council passed and Congress did not override it. We were sort of watching this process. This is potentially precedent setting. The pharmaceutical industry had tried this in many states, but they have bicameral legislatures and they did not succeed because both parents opposed it. But in D.C., with only a unicameral legislature, they were able to get this through. This is dangerous for children because parents won't know what vaccines their children get. It goes beyond just the parents don't know. This is active concealment required by this law that the parents who filed a religious exemption will not know that their children got vaccines. Whether it's the human papilloma virus vaccine or whether it's the COVID shot or whether it's a meningitis shot, the kids allegedly can consent to any federally recommended vaccine on their own and the parents won't even find out about it from their health insurer. It will be concealed from the parents who will have access to information and the health care practitioner. But the health care practitioner and the school are disabled from giving that information to the parent. This is unconstitutional. It also violates the federal statute that put in place the vaccine program that we have today. So we strongly oppose it. We believe that we will prevail on this. We have four parents on behalf of their children who are enrolled in the D.C. public school system. And we think that, we feel that, this is an incredibly important law to challenge because it is so potentially precedent setting. Let me just add that four cities have already sort of declared this mature minor act. And so Seattle and New York City and in Philadelphia, they have been inviting children without their parents’ knowledge to come and get COVID shots. This is tremendously concerning.
PERKINS: This would appear to me, as you've described it, Mary, intentionally designed to deceive parents. And with this being concealed, I mean, I have to think about, you know, there could be complications. You know, when you get this, let’s just take the COVID, there’s others that this would open the door to. So it's not limited to the COVID shot. But let's say they get the COVID shot. And we already know that there have been some health complications for some who have gotten these shots and a parent doesn't know and all of a sudden their child could be deathly ill and they don't know why.
HOLLAND: Tony, there have been others, over nine thousand reported deaths. There have been over four hundred thousand reported injuries. The covid shots in particular are very serious medical intervention. But every vaccine, like every drug carries potential benefits and potential risks. That's why parents have to play a role in these decisions. These are minors. It is inconceivable to me that an 11-year-old can adequately research and understand the potential benefits risks of a COVID shot. This is nonsense. This is the pharmaceutical industry coming in and exploiting children, at the children's expense and trying to cut parents out of the picture. That's just unacceptable. It's un-American, it's unconstitutional, and it violates federal law.
KILGANNON: We're really grateful that you filed this lawsuit. I think it's incredible to me that a governing body, in which in this case is the school board, right and the city council, that would they would think that eleven year olds could know their medical history sufficiently to actually form intelligent consent to any medical procedure. Never mind a vaccine.
HOLLAND: That's it, Meg. This is dangerous. Children can potentially die from this law. That's what parents have to understand. Your child could die from getting fuor COVID shots through a school. And the kid doesn't know what the shot was. They said, “Oh, yeah, give me the shot so our class can get the pizza party.” And then the mom or the dad take the kid to get to the COVID shot. We don't know what that would do. It might be within a short period of time. I just can't bring across enough how dangerous it is and how exploitative this is.
PERKINS: Well, and I would add that to add insult to injury here is that they're going to bill the parents’ health insurer without them even knowing what the service provided was. I mean, this is incredible.
HOLLAND: That's the point, Tony. It's incredible. We could not believe this as this passed through the city council. And then it sat on the mayor's desk and we tried to get people to call in to the mayor, and there were there were hundreds of thousands of emails and phone calls, but that didn't move anything. And then it went to Congress and there's a waiting period in Congress and that didn't do anything. So, surely, we have had no choice. And another organization has also filed a lawsuit. This one is where we absolutely have to take a stand. It is. And of course, this is specifically going against parents with religious exemptions or conscientious objections to the HPV vaccine, Gardasil. So it's parents who already filed their religious exemptions to great extent that they're trying to go around. So this is, of course, also violating constitutional rights to free exercise. It’s just a terrible law. In a word, it's a just terrible law and that we're proud to be standing together with the plaintiff and parental rights advocates.
PERKINS: Well, Mary, we appreciate you joining us. And we're going to watch this very closely. And we'll be getting updates from you, hopefully, so we can keep our listeners informed. This is a direct attack, Meg, on parental rights.
KILGANNON: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. They want to leave the parents out. They're going deliberately around them.
The video of the interview can be viewed here.